@deth I worked last night but it seems the game went as I expected (and @Vapor for that matter) Broncos aren't a team that needs great QB play to be successful. That defense is only going to get better once their new starters gel and they get Talib back... and CJ Anderson still looks to have his 2nd half of last season form going.. The offense around Semen is really good. Kelvin Benjamin looking healthy is great to see. Carolina will be fine, they could end up top 5 on both sides of the ball if they stay healthy. I think the offense has that type of potential. The main issue for me w/ Carolina is I expected them to have some kinks on defense... defending the pass.. they start 2 rookie CBs.. but it was really CJ Anderson and the rushing attack that gave them trouble, something I didn't expect. Also, I don't care how many times it works out... the "wait until the ball is about to be snapped to call a timeout" is a stupdi strategy. You are giving the kicker a practice stroke. Its nonsense. Want to ice the kicker? Do it before they snap it and get a test drive.