ADD/ADHD rant.

Discussion in 'Locker Room' started by TheTNHMaster, Jan 2, 2014.

  1. Okay, just felt like ranting on people with ADD/ADHD. First off, ADHD doesn't exist in kids. It's an excuse for why kids don't pay attention in school or are getting bad grades. No, it's because your kid doesn't know when to listen. "Approximately 11% of children 4-17 years of age (6.4 million) have been diagnosed with ADHD as of 2011." Bull.Fucking.Shit. "The percentage of children with an ADHD diagnosis continues to increase, from 7.8% in 2003 to 9.5% in 2007 and to 11.0% in 2011." Now, this statistics have raised from 11. (I just couldn't find any, this is coming off http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/adhd/data.html) Anyways, the numbers are way too high for me to believe 6.4 million kids have ADHD. The bad thing is, when you grow up, YOU CAN CLAIM DISABILITY FOR THIS! You can't prove that a person doesn't have ADD/ADHD. Here are some symptoms of ADHD.

    • Fails to give close attention to details or makes careless mistakes in schoolwork
    • Has difficulty keeping attention during tasks or play
    • Does not seem to listen when spoken to directly
    • Does not follow through on instructions and fails to finish schoolwork or chores and tasks
    • Has problems organizing tasks and activities
    • Avoids or dislikes tasks that require sustained mental effort (such as schoolwork)
    • Often loses toys, assignments, pencils, books, or tools needed for tasks or activities
    • Is easily distracted
    • Is often forgetful in daily activities
    Those aren't symptoms, those are kids not being disciplined. In these are true, most of my school has ADHD, which is fucking bullshit.

    • Fidgets with hands or feet or squirms in seat
    • Leaves seat when remaining seated is expected
    • Runs about or climbs in inappropriate situations
    • Has problems playing or working quietly
    • Is often "on the go," acts as if "driven by a motor"
    • Talks excessively
    Again, fucking bullshit. This is kids not being disciplined. I am repeating my self here but, if so, almost all of my school has ADHD. I even told a kid straight to his face he doesn't have ADHD, he isn't disciplined.

    Also, fuck adults with ADD, claiming disability. Well, I know how I am gonna make money when I grow up!
     
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  2. Yeah, either I have ADHD or I'm fucking retarded. I'm siding with retarded currently.
     
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  3. I will agree with you on a few things. Based on recent statistics, ADD and ADHD are overly diagnosed. There are several factors I think the medical community and educational professions are overlooking. We need to consider the child's age as well as the functionality of the behavior. Instead of labeling someone, what are some adjustments the parents and teachers can make to minimize the behavior? Simply changing the seating arrangement for the child, breaking down homework assignments, etc. could be some things that could be tailored for the child to make things easier in school. It could be that the child is lazy (in which case there would need to be discussion about motivation and self-regulation skills for the child), but it could simply be an issue of the environment.

    Either way, it's important to recognize that the DSM IV diagnostic criteria for ADD/ADHD is ambiguous and open to interpretation. Because the criteria is vague, that's when it's important to consider the following. In order to diagnose someone with a disorder, a general rule of thumb is to consider if it is impacting multiple areas of the person's life and making it difficult to function properly in everyday life. Problem solving in the classroom, in the home, etc. with methods that don't involve medication, etc. will tell us whether or not it is something the person can and cannot control well on their own. If it is impacting more than one area of a person's life and disruptive to daily functioning, a diagnosis may be appropriate. Intervention would then be tailored to benefit the person's personal needs. Some adults may find out later on in life that this is something that has been impacting their lives and pursue help.
     
  4. ADHD and ADD aren't predominantly the same thing; hard discipline for ADD would do nothing but make it even worse, because it would just cause their brain to feel even more stress and the person would end up spending the majority of his attention trying to resolve the stress, and not focusing on the actual task.

    I can agree with claiming bullshit on ADHD, because children are naturally supposed to be hyperactive, but don't shit on ADD if you have no actual proof to back it up. Brains are different, they interpret information differently. It's far too easy to claim bullshit on ADD as an outsider, because you don't experience the symptoms. It's pretty much the same as claiming bullshit on autism.
     
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  5. #5 Danielson, Jan 2, 2014
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    Okay, I'm about to get real serious up in this mug, because this is something that a lot of my friends have been "diagnosed" with. I'm not going to sit here and try to deny that real medically proven mental disabilities exist. People suffer from irrational fears, seeing things(Hallucinations) and life crushing illnesses that can destroy the person if left untreated. I don't blame those people for taking drugs, they need to feel better. I actually applaud them

    It's the people that try to rid any dose of their natural human emotion that disgust me. Each emotion is a key part to the human mind and psyche imo. You need to have sadness to appreciate happiness. You need the ups and the downs to experience life fully. Without anger, how do you appreciate a calm day, just a smoke in your hand and the wind blowing on your face? I think people that are seraching for a diagnoses are denying the emotions which makes them unique, and a human. Our minds work the way they do for a reason.

    I think a lot of people search for diagnoses because their lives aren't going the way they want it to, and instead of admitting it to themselves and trying to change it naturally, they head to a white coat jackoff and look for a diagnoses that alleviates whatever is going on. If a dude in a white coat tells you that you're messed up, then there is no real reason to want to change it now is there?

    Maybe there is nothing wrong with the way we think. Maybe we're seeing the world the way it's supposed to be seen. Maybe there is something wrong with the world, and we're fine.

    Or perhaps we've got something up with us, who knows. Rant over
     
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  6. Are you 12 years old?
     
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  7. Don't think I was really claiming bullshit on ADD, think I was claiming bullshit on adults that claim disability for it.
     
  8. Are you just curious about my age or does it if have to do with the OP?
     
  9. ADD is the result of too much multitasking. We are use to it so when we try to do only one thing, we simply can't pay attention. Think about it. Makes sense. You didn't hear about this junk before the huge technology boom. Its just another name to another "illness" that has nothing to do with being sick. They make millions every year selling meds for this that screw people up severely.

    I can guarantee one month away from most technology (cells, computers, video games, tv, ect) and it will no longer be an issue. Kids have this option as they don't work and parents need to show them doing too much at once can effect how you focus on one thing at a time.
     
  10. Just the age. School and kids. I thought you were 46 :notsure:
     
  11. 46? Who am I? Jason Statham?
     
  12. Yeah, isn't this you?

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  13. No, I look like a younger and hotter Bob Orindek [​IMG]
     
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  17. I'm constantly doing multiple things at once and I can still focus right.

    "They make millions every year selling meds for this that screw people up severely." just sounds like a Britaspiracy so I'm gonna ignore that :lol1: (inb4 jonatwat etc. cause you don't have an actual answer)
     
  18. You really shouldn't just rant about an illness because it's over diagnosed. Whilst I agree that the vast majority of children diagnosed with it are probably misdiagnosed, it is something that is very real. My sister suffers with Psychosis (which includes Anxiety, OCD, Depression, and others), Aspergers, and ADD. Because of the amount of children supposedly diagnosed with ADD, it is seen as either an illness that doesn't exist - an excuse, as some people call it - or an illness that isn't very serious. We didn't know my sister suffered with ADD until a year or two ago, and she has had it since she was a child. She could not, and because of that DID NOT, focus or try in school. She became easily frustrated and inevitably got into continuous trouble in a variety of situations. She pretty much suffers with every single symptom listed that you claim to be "bullshit", and more.

    It's very difficult for her and for us to communicate with her on a high level for a long period of time, and that is inevitably frustrating for both parties. Please, unless you have a sufficient understanding of mental health, don't rant about it online. "These aren't symptoms, these are the result of kids not being disciplined" - in some cases yeah, but don't speak about that as fact. Because all of us suffer from one or two of these symptoms oftenly, it doesn't mean they're not symptoms, or are symptoms because of how we were raised. If you suffered from all of them consistently, then you can agree it's a problem, right? The only example I can give is depression. All of us have been depressed at some point in our life, and some people more than others, but depression as a diagnosed mental health illness is very real.
     
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  19. To be honest, I've known @Black_Jesus since MP, him randomly ranting on a highly serious topic he had under researched, only using 1-3 sources, is nothing out of the ordinary.. Btw, in school they taught me 4-7 sources at least, if you want to create a credible argument (GCSE History bitches).

    While, I understand the point you are making with misdiagnosis; where in people may be getting diagnosed when they don't actually have it, this doesn't mean though that it doesn't exist, that's just you generalising because you're angry about for some reason that I don't completely understand.

    I was personally diagnosed at 5 for ADHD/ADD as well as three other conditions e.g. Dyspraxia. While there's a possibility I am misdiagnosed, it's not like 'better discipline' magically makes it better, I know people not diagnosed of ADHD (their parents attempted testing;not diagnosed) that are very poorly disciplined, please try to give some credit to the experts in charge of diagnosing the condition.

    And I've GOT TO address you going to some kid, who you may not know anything about for I all know, not know his personal life, or the experience of the expert diagnosing him and go to him that doesn't ADHD, then you're a fucking tool, that's bad manners. If someone did that to me, I'd be offended, especially because they're not me, so who they to make a definitive judgement, and say it to my face like they're a know it all.

    Also, you bitching about the money given to the people with the condition; Triple A economy, stop crying bbycakes <3 :) xxxxxxx
    You claiming money for ADD....Actually you could gain benefit from having the "Faeces from the mouth" disorder, sure there's some cash in it for you for that.

    While I respect the fact you have an opinion, I don't really respect your opinion. But at least you created lively discussion in a thread, so good for you I guess..