Said this from day one. Why? Because I watch the Bundesliga and they are definitely the Barcelona of that league. Sure Bayern are fantastic to watch but Dortmund play better football with "worse" players. Dortmund's league form is poor this year where as Bayern's was fantastic, but that's what the CL does to you when you concentrate on it. Bayern did it last year, they dominated the CL, knocked out the big guns but flopped in the league and the German cup. Dortmund outplayed City at the Etihad by a mile, they outplayed Madrid at home by a mile and I've yet to see the draw at Madrid's stadium (cba to spell that). Seriously, they are the dark horses. My favourites in order: Real Madrid Barcelona Dortmund Man United Bayern Munich But the top three is basically joint first. If Barcelona have a fully fit team then they go #1, but if they continue to have their midget defence then lol bye. Madrid by then will have picked up form, and they ALWAYS perform in the big games at the moment. Already said why Dortmund are amazing, the passing football they play is sensational. United have an outstanding attack, and so do Bayern.