Discussion in 'International Wrestling' started by Stopspot, Jun 7, 2014.
Exec? Dixie is a TNA President, last I remember
Anyway, all things considered including DIxie's tweet to Bully yesterday (and reading PWInsider and PWtorch), this is mostly a work. Cooperation between HOH and TNA continues.
If it's a work it blows ass. How many people paid for that show expecting to see Bully?
Looks like a work to me, it's all too convenient not to be.
That's the risk you take I suppose, all cards are subject to change.
Work or not, Fuck You Dixie.
Seriously she can eat shit and die. That is the worst PR Campaign of all time ffs. Shitting on fans who were told Bully would be there just for the sake of it.
I absolutely despise loving a company for their staff tbh. TNA should lose Roode, Storm, Aries, Ion, Bully, Anderson, and so many more to Double J's promotion just so we can all have the satisfaction of watching Taz Tenay Dixie and the other hacks drown together. I'd pay to watch it.
House of Hardcore Results
June 7, 2014
Results submitted by Chris of PWPonderings.com
(1) Little Guido beat Danny Doring with a Tomakaze.
(2) Gangrel & Cerebus & Fungus beat Vik Dalishus & Team Tremendous (Dan Barry & Bill Carr) in a six-man tag match when Gangrel nailed the Impaler on Dalishus.
(3) Drew Gulak beat Ben Ortiz and Lance Anoai in a three-way match when Gulak hit Lance with a piledriver.
(4) Chris Hero beat Adam Pearce with a roaring elbow.
(5) C.W. Anderson & Devon beat Outlaw, Inc. (Eddie Kingston & Homicide) when Anderson superkicked Kingston and Devon hit a big slam through the table
(6) Abyss beat Tommy Dreamer in a Monster's Ball match with a chokeslam onto tacks.
(7) Bad Influence (Christopher Daniels & Frankie Kazarian) beat Tony Nese & Petey Williams when Daniels nailed Williams with the Best Moonsault Ever.
(8) A.J. Styles beat Kevin Steen with the Styles Clash.
Monster’s Ball: Abyss vs. Tommy Dreamer
Abyss came to the ring first. The crowd chanted, “F*** TNA” before dying down. He asked the crowd if they were through. The chant started again. Abyss asked if this was Philadelphia, the birthplace of extreme and hardcore. The crowd chanted “ECW.” He said, “You people just can’t get over it, can you? You just can’t leave it in the past.” He said that what the fans were about to witness is the future because ECW is dead. He said what they were going to witness was his match, the Monster’s Ball, which belongs to Dixie Carter and “the greatest wrestling organization ever, TNA.” He began chanting the letters.The match begins (...)
Abyss went under the ring and grabbed a bag of thumb tacks. He spread them on the mat and place Dreamer on the top. Abyss followed and teased a superplex. Dreamer fought his way out with a series of rights and sent Abyss down into the tacks. Dreamer nailed a DDT for a two count.
Dreamer pulled some barbed wire out from under the ring. Dreamer set it up in the middle of the ring but was grabbed for a chokeslam. Dreamer fought his way out with some big punches and went for a Spicoli Driver. Abyss slipped out and went for a chokeslam. Dreamer bit his hand. Abyss nailed a Black Hole Slam into the barbed wire. Dreamer got his shoulder up. Abyss killed him with a big chokeslam into the tacks and pinned Dreamer.
Your winner, Abyss!
Abyss took the ring mic and said that he was the new king of hardcore wrestling. He said that as for Dreamer and all his ECW rejects, there’s only one company that rules – TNA.
fuck that dumb bitch chant sounds legendary
If TNA agreed to this work, just lmao @ them. Dreamer is wisely using the hell out of them either way, and either way, work or not, TNA looks like retards.
Seabs was right, it's all too convient not to be some sort of work, and biggest clue to that is Bully Ray inviting HOH fans to come where? To PA and NYC where TNA tapes later this month, the states where HOH just held two shows this weekend. Plus, there is Abyss and Dreamer, two TNA employees (!), constantly mentioning TNA etc etc. Damn work. Oh and I nearly forgot, Bully was on that Spike awards show last night, so he couldn't have made it anyway.
D'Z, I won't agree or disagree with your statement about TNA being retards for doing this, but hey at least TNA is being talked about. Any talk > no talk at all, I guess it works for TFA
Where Bully was last night
Plus surprise for y'all
Spoiler (Move your mouse to the spoiler area to reveal the content)
If that is their mentality I guess more power to them, they got what they wanted. I just know I wouldn't sign off on letting my promotion be used like that. I guess it makes it seem like Dixie has control of something though, which is probably what she ultimately wanted.
By Mike Johnson on 2014-06-08 13:21:44
For those who have asked whether the House of Hardcore announcement that Bully Ray was pulled was chapter one of some sort of inter-promotional angle, that is not the case. Tommy Dreamer was informed that Bully Ray had been pulled from the weekend at the last minute. Since Ray was working the shows as part of the deal where Dreamer's HOH helped TNA fill the house when they ran a One Night Only taping in Poughkeepsie, obviously he wasn't thrilled about having to change a main event that had been advertised for some time. When Dreamer cut the promo on Friday about Dixie Carter, he specifically noted it was not part of the show and was only for the live fans in attendance. Obviously he was making Carter and TNA the heels in an attempt to pop the live crowd (which worked big-time, as it was one of the biggest reactions of the night) but for those who were asking if this was chapter one of a planned angle or storyline that would bleed over to TNA TV, that was not the case when Dreamer went to the ring. Dreamer is still, as of this writing, working as an agent for TNA. The Bully Ray offer to meet any fans who had a HOH ticket stub at any of the upcoming TNA events in PA or NY was something Ray, not TNA, offered, although TNA had to approve it. But, none of this was any grand planned angle.
In a funny "only in wrestling" story, The Sandman showed up in Poughkeepsie on Friday, even though Tommy Dreamer had never booked him for the show. So, he was written in. Dreamer often jokes that Sandman is his "lucky charm."
All this proves is Dreamer is a genius promoter lol. TNA stars appearing in a show and build up that in a way devalues the company lol.
"For those who have asked whether the House of Hardcore announcement that Bully Ray was pulled was chapter one of some sort of inter-promotional angle, that is not the case. Tommy Dreamer was informed that Bully Ray had been pulled from the weekend at the last minute. Since Ray was working the shows as part of the deal where Dreamer's HOH helped TNA fill the house when they ran a One Night Only taping in Poughkeepsie, obviously he wasn't thrilled about having to change a main event that had been advertised for some time. When Dreamer cut the promo on Friday about Dixie Carter, he specifically noted it was not part of the show and was only for the live fans in attendance. Obviously he was making Carter and TNA the heels in an attempt to pop the live crowd (which worked big-time, as it was one of the biggest reactions of the night) but for those who were asking if this was chapter one of a planned angle or storyline that would bleed over to TNA TV, that was not the case when Dreamer went to the ring. Dreamer is still, as of this writing, working as an agent for TNA. The Bully Ray offer to meet any fans who had a HOH ticket stub at any of the upcoming TNA events in PA or NY was something Ray, not TNA, offered, although TNA had to approve it. But, none of this was any grand planned angle."
Seems like the classical real life event turned into mini-angle.
For those interested both events drew about 1.300-1.500 people, with less on the Friday show which was expected as they experimented with running a Friday card.
You blind? I posted the story two posts above yours, lol.
Clearly I use the tactile version of the internet.
Tommy Dreamer official statement. Tommy breaks it down ver honestly on Facebook:
"I never wanted a publicist I don't feel the need. So here is my OFFICIAL STATEMENT.
In today's society with social media being the way it is I laugh every time a celebrity says something that is not poltically correct and they apologize for it. The only reason why they apologize is because they got caught or it could hurt their image.
The wrestling community is all abuzz over my recent House of Hardcore events. It was so much work, but so happy it worked out for me, the wrestlers & importantly the fans.
The biggest controversy is Bully Ray being pulled from my show. Here is how it all went down. I have 1 of my best friends calling me & saying. "I can't believe I have to even make this call." Bubba tells me TNA is pulling me from your show. I have to do an apperance for them in LA. I say ok. I had no apperance contracts like I've had in the past. I put my thinking cap on & I remembered so many times in the original ECW stuff like this happened before.
In doing my best Paul Heyman, I didn't lie to my audience. I gave the fans 2 matches told them they can leave now get those 2 matches for free & get a refund but if they stayed I had surprises & promised a solid show. I advertised a Main Event & didnt have 1 player I felt it was the right thing to do.It worked out in the end maybe better than I had hoped for. Not 1 person left.
I also told the audience this part of show won't be on DVD it was just for them. It was. I did call Dixie Carter a b*tch & I'm not apologizing for it.(the crowd said way worse things about her) It was a bad buisness move. Which I see being made all the time.
I am all buisness. I have helped TNA wrestling before & did very good buisness for them drawing 3 times the amount of people from the last show they did at Mid-Hudson Civic Center from something I put together at HOH 3.
To TNA's credit, John Gaburick Head of Talent Relations, who has always been straight with me, offered to help anyway possible. I at first wanted Bobby Roode and Eric Young. They both agreed to help even though they had personal stuff, then I just went with my gut(no fat jokes)
Bully Ray & I came up with the idea if any fan that bought an HOH ticket & brings it to the TNA upcoming TVs in PA or NY he will have a free meet and greet, because he feels like sh*t & wants to make good. TNA agreed which is just good buisness for both.
I turned a negative into a positive. (That's what I do) It benefits HOH TNA & importantly the wrestling fans. I help out behind the scenes in TNA. I'm not under contract, I don't know if I will be brought back & if not that's OK. I will continue to support Impact Wrestling. I love the men & women there & want their buisness to grow.
If WWE, ROH or any indy asks me to help, I would do the same. I love wrestling & just want to see it continue to strive & get better. I am a 43yr old man & don't need to take people's petty issues, especially if something effects my own shows & hard work. I have an issue with that & I will voice my opinion.
I feel there are way too many hypocrites that only voice their grievences after the company stops paying them. To me that is just BS.
My House of Hardcore slogan is "No Politics No BS JUST WRESTLING" - I strive to continue to have that in my locker room & with the paying customers. Hardcore is a strong work ethic.
So when people talk about what's going on go or start rumors direct them here or my Twitter. Thanks and look forward to continued progress this Sat HOH 6 West Coast Invasion houseofhardcore.net."
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