Discussion in 'Serious Topics & Debates' started by Neptune, Dec 22, 2015.
God help us all.
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So basically... This is the worst religion in the world. Anyone care to disagree on that?
They believe in stoning women to death over adultery, the use of slaves, women not having value outside of being property of men... These are truly oppressed women and they have no choice to accept it or they will be killed.
Basically, anyone who questions their religion deserves death. Anyone who doesn't enforce their religion deserved death.
And we want to allow them into America? Really? I know Donald Trump is a tool but I do not want these people living here. We have enough problems in America, we don't need more. They live, breath, and die for this religion. It is all most of them know. They HATE Americans. I just don't understand why people would want to put their jobs, their lives, their families/children at risk by allowing them into the country.
Same goes for Europe. Look at the UK. Muslims are overtaking the country and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
I am all for saving lives, and I believe each life on this planet has value but when you use a cynical religion to mind control an entire race/group/nation, I am sorry but that is just modern day Nazi Germany.
Wake up people. Do you want the possibility of your rights being stripped away to protect their beliefs of killing, sexism, and racism to come into effect?
Care to elaborate on women having no value outside of property of men?
In Islam culture and religion, women are property which is why, when they disobey their male counterpart, they are killed.
Qur'an (4:34) - "Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them."
Qur'an (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them"
Qur'an (33:59) - "Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them..." Men determine how women dress.
Qur'an (33:33) - "And abide quietly in your homes..." Women are confined to their homes except when they have permission to go out.
Qur'an (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will." Wives are to be sexually available to their husbands in all ways at all times. They serve their husbands at his command. This verse is believed to refer to anal sex (see Bukhari 60:51), and was "revealed" when women complained to Muhammad about the practice. The phrase "when and how you will" means that they lost their case.
Qur'an (66:5) - "Maybe, his Lord, if he divorce you, will give him in your place wives better than you, submissive, faithful, obedient, penitent, adorers, fasters, widows and virgins" A disobedient wife can be replaced.
I won't even care to read the other ones. Quran 33:33 says absolutely nothing like that, lol. Best not copy and paste from an anti-islamic website, my friend.
also the Quran is talking about modesty in both men and women.
"And abide in your houses and do not display yourselves as [was] the display of the former times of ignorance. And establish prayer and give zakah and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah intends only to remove from you the impurity [of sin], O people of the [Prophet's] household, and to purify you with [extensive] purification."
What about the uk? In what way are we being overtaken by Muslims?
I'm guessing he's a Fox News viewer.
Did you watch the video? There is a man who asks if the stoning of women was asked by allah, who agrees with it. He says a few other things and then the whole room raises their hands in agreement.
Never before have I seen an OP filled with so much bullshit and lies.
The bible says a divorced woman should be stoned to death as well.
The bible is more violent than the Quran
Yeah, what people think and what the source says are completely different. The source says that you're not to stone people to death for adultery, but corporal punishment is allowed, if agreed upon by a jury/council of scholars. And it's not subjected to just women. Men are given the same punishments to the same crimes. The punishment by the way are lashes.
Buddy, do some real research and studying. You're making a joke out of yourself.
Birmingham (the town he labelled as a UK no-go zone) has had a large Muslim population ever since I can remember, since before terrorism became a huge thing. It isn't a no go zone at all, but then it's Fox News, so I shouldn't have expected anything realiable to come out of that video.
What Catholic or Christian in this century has stated that it should still be enforced today?
Dude, secularism has stripped away all Muslim's of their beliefs. Look at Turkey after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. Look at Kabul. Look at Egypt during the Mubarak years. Look at Libya, Tunisia, Syria, Iraq and Jordan. Dictators forcefully installing western ideology, and forcing western culture down people's throats.
They are calling for it because that was the last time the region was in peace. It was what worked. Communism didn't work. Democracy didn't work. Despotism didn't work. What did work was Islam, and that's why they're calling for it.
Quite a lot. If you think that the average day Muslim still thinks every fucking line in the Quran should be followed to a T then you must be living in some kind of bubble. Islam is the biggest religion on the planet and contains the biggest amount of secularized practitioners of any religion going today. Put the average modern Muslim next to the average modern Christian and the major differences you'll find is what name they use for god, if they eat ham or not and how many times they prey a day.
People need to stop using radical minority groups to throw dirt on an entire people.
Name one for me though. I want to know, I am being serious. Name one pastor or priest who says a woman who cheats on her husband needs to be stoned to death because God said so.
Hence those people are not considered true Christians and Catholics but moderate. Don't most religions nowadays try to mellow down to fit society today? I mean, being a homosexual is a sin, but now we have some churches allowing them to come in. Same thing with Islam, some people are moderate, but let's focus on the Muslims since all 1.6 billion of them destroyed the World Trade Center.
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Or does the Westboro baptist church suddenly not count as Christian?
The lords restistance army is another prime example. Or do they not count because they are based in Uganda?
Dosen't Uganda burn gays or am I wrong?
Baptists are divided among various groups who choose to believe parts of the bible. They use the same book, but in a different sense so they are their own religion in a sense. The lords resistance is more of a cult than a religion... but then again cults are just religions a said person views as bad so you got me there. Lets throw in the Children of God religion whiles we are at it because they used the bible to rape and manipulate children.
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