African American Wrestlers

Discussion in 'General WWE' started by Jerramie Clark, Aug 6, 2016.

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  1. Can the WWE use african american wrestlers the right way instead of making them look like clowns and idiots? C__Data_Users_DefApps_AppData_INTERNETEXPLORER_Temp_Saved Images_New-Day.jpg C__Data_Users_DefApps_AppData_INTERNETEXPLORER_Temp_Saved Images_New-Day.jpg
  2. #AfricanAmericanWrestlersMatter
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  3. Exactly, like why can't we get a african american version of Goldberg or Brock Lesnar? Or a african american version of John Cena? If you look at other sports, Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant don't dance around like idiots, it pisses me off
  4. #4 Roadster, Aug 6, 2016
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2016
    It seems the only person who is making this about race is you.

    The New Day is the most over and top selling merchandise selling unit in the WWE, right now. They're getting their own cereal, if you need any more proof. Does it matter that they dance around, because if you ask any business professional or pro wrestling booker, they're the epitome of a pro wrestling success story. And another thing that bothers me about this, is that The New Day has a big say in what they do. What they do is at their own behest. So does it really matter that they dance around? They're successful, and they're having fun. That's all that matters.

    You also bring up a black version of Brock Lesnar. I'm not sure if you noticed but Brock Lesnar is an absolute freak. There isn't a white version, a black version, a brown version and an Asian version, in-stock. He's a one of a kind, once in a life-time athlete. The closest we've gotten to anyone like him was Bobby Lashley, who, to your liking, was black. But he was a fraction of what Lesnar was and is. He was on the rise, with a massive push. He was ECW World Champion, feuded with McMahon and was drafted to RAW. But injuries halted his push, at the peak.

    I hate when people automatically equate race to everything done in WWE. Yeah they've had some stereotypical gimmicks, but that doesn't really matter in the large scheme of things because they hardly last more than a couple of years or even months.
  5. I'm just saying, there are actually a lot of african americans that didn't have a stereotype gimmick that deserved a push but got turned down, Mark Henry, took him 15 years to get the world heavyweight championship, Kofi Kingston was over with the crowd, I get it, he's over with the crowd even when he's with the new day but he would've been more successful even as a singles competitor, Shelton Benjamin, one of the most talented superstars in the business but never got a push, Big E Langston (not Big E) was a powerhouse but never got the push he deserved as a singles competitor for a world championship, do I need to go on?
  6. Was that because they were black?

    Mark Henry was used perfectly fine. His past work ultimately culminated into a massive push that gave him a legitimate title reign. Kofi Kingston was over with the crowd, but according to rumors and even an incident on TV, he had gotten a big head. His ego got the better of him. And Shelton Benjamin is a good wrestler and high flyer but can't talk for shit. He has no charisma or spunk to his character. Big E was also a charisma vacuum, but his work in New Day gave him the charisma WWE wanted out of him.
  7. I personally think their gimmick/gimmicks suck. I never liked it. It has felt childish from the start. A lot of people like them though and these guys are loved by a lot of people.

    I think you are making this about race instead of looking at ability. And your comparison to black men in sports makes no sense. Kobe was a basketball player. His career didn't rely on getting over with the crowd.

    I do agree that Big E should go out on his own and be that powerhouse again but they aren't going to do this because the New Day is still widely popular and banks them huge sales in merch.
    Don't forget, the WWE isn't just a "sport" it is a business.
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  9. Roman Reigns has no mic skills whatsoever but yet Vince loves the guy and the incident with Kofi, it was one mistake, roman made mistakes whenever he talked on the microphone yet they still give him a big ass push, jack swagger had no mic skills but they let him become world champion
  10. ^ And Booker T
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  12. I can see Apollo Crews being the Smackdown champ in a couple of years, and as well Ember Moon winning NXT and WWE Women's Championship.
  13. Roman Reigns has a pedigree. He was a great athlete in College, and played pro football. He comes from a pro wrestling dynasty. He had his own style, that was, originally, special for a guy his size. He also has a good look.

    Jack Swagger is a National Wrestling Champion. He is the most legit guy they have on that roster, not named Brock Lesnar. He has a good look, and was able to work around his bad speaking by working with Zeb Colter.

    I don't think Roman Reigns ever refused to take a finisher from his superior. Kofi did, and not even backstage, but on live TV. Reigns is much more reliable than Kingston was. Roman made a mistake with drugs, but that is way better than making yourself and your opponent look like fools live on international TV.
  14. I actually have to agree with that last sentence
  15. I hate to be the black guy to say this but...he don't count. He identifies as samoan not african american.
  16. At least someone said it, I was thinking the same thing
  17. His father is black. Therefore he is also black. You can be a black Samoan.
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  19. I debated even getting into this conversation, but here it is.

    I'm tired of the whole "The Rock's not black" shtick. People presume he doesn't think of himself as black when he's commented on multiple occasions about being proud of both of his heritages. Unless he's come out recently denying that he's black and stating that he only thinks of himself as Samoan, I'm really not impressed. He's half-black, half-Samoan (or some similar mixture...considering the rather messed-up nature of Americans' ethnic backgrounds).

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  20. I couldn't agree more. I'm tired of this "he identifies as Samoan and doesn't count as black " nonsense. First off, I've never ONCE heard the Rock say this. In order for this to be valid, he'd have to say both things.

    I've never heard, read nor can I find a single comment by the Rock in regards to identifying solely as Samoan or black. I have heard him on occasion speak proudly of both heritages.

    Second, even if he did such a thing, it wouldn't make him any less black.
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