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You can discuss IWT in this sticky thread. However, don't reply to the archive itself. I will delete anything that is posted in response to existing threads because I want to preserve all of this work in its original form.
 

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Oh and please keep all IWT related discussion in this forum. I don't want to see it overflowing into fights all over the forum. If I start to see that, I might have to limit what can be put here.

I myself was a member of some of those fights and can admit I didn't act as I should have. I don't want to see that happening again and believe me, if it does, I will put a quick stop to it.

Feel free to tell each other how much you hate each or whatever, but keep it in this forum.
 

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I appreciate the work a lot for getting this back up, Killer Orange Cat. Thanks! I must say I will never wrap my head around the idea that I or anyone was trying to show any bias towards friends. I remember when people said we were only friends with Tsar because he was the GM lmao. Man, I think that pissed me off the most about the whole deal in the end: I thought we had a good thing going, with me trying to make everything be as fair as possible as I wanted Beaver, Jonny Nostril, Gino back in the day, even Jeffry Mason if he felt like it to join and enjoy it like how we did it. I remember when I became the champion how my plan was to defend the title every other week, constantly DM'ing people from that group to challenge them to make them feel accepted and a part of this e-fed. Unfortunately for them, their ideas regarding us were already sealed. It was all dumb and petty.
 
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Oh and I know I said a LOT of stupid things. I am too embarrassed to go back and read them.

Oh, and the night of that HUGE fight over that match, I was drunk off my ass. I don't remember any of it, but I do remember acting like a total jackass haha.

I don't have any hard feelings over anything that happened back then and I can admit that I was full of shit several times.
 

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I know they used Reag not being given a world title shot at IWTMania IV back then as evidence but really it was just the fact that some of them really, really hated myself and friends of mine. I'm likely the culprit for most of it, though. That's my two cents on it, shame it had to die the way it did! Especially with how active it was until the day of death!

Happy to get my promos back though!
 

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Oh and I know I said a LOT of stupid things. I am too embarrassed to go back and read them.

Oh, and the night of that HUGE fight over that match, I was drunk off my ass. I don't remember any of it, but I do remember acting like a total jackass haha.

I don't have any hard feelings over anything that happened back then and I can admit that I was full of shit several times.
I can't say I remember much of what people said about that last match. It was a shit show, regardless. IW3 dudes taking days in between posting promos, the match lasting nearly two weeks. I just remember I wrote an awful rap and eventually we all broke the rules voting for Aids because in our heads it was already such a shit show, that we might as well treat it like one.
 

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I remember Solidus wanted me to step on Roadie's toes and shut the match down because even though Roadie was the General Manager, Solidus told me "You outrank him."

I told him I wasn't going to do that. It just wouldn't be right and that's around the time I began liking him a lot less.

And I am glad to have been able to get everyone's work back. I know a lot of time was put into this, it's not fair for it to just be gone.
 
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I remember Solidus wanted me to step on Roadie's toes and shut the match down because even though Roadie was the General Manager, Solidus told me "You outrank him."

I told him I wasn't going to do that. It just wouldn't be right and that's around the time I began liking him a lot less.

And I am glad to have been able to get everyone's work back. I know a lot of time was put into this, it's not fair for it to just be gone.
From what I understood later on, having talked with Dat Kid and Aids and all those, they've wanted to shut IWT down for months trying to start new e-feds before they actually had the chance to. It probably was all just based on the fact that they hated us. Again, mostly beyond my comprehension.
 

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Could be. I didn't know much about his motives because he didn't talk about it much.

But I am just happy that's back. I have had a little fun reading some of my cheesy promos. I do think WWE should use my ring entrance though.
 
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However, it must also be said that I was really trying to look for confrontation within every post. If it wasn't a direct remark, it was a snark or a hint. It was such a dumb time. Tsar and I were quite young at the time but I think he could vouch with me that it did feel like a battle everytime we came onto the forum. I can be a sucker for that type of stuff regardless, but it created a very toxic environment all around. We made fun of what they did and they were fantasizing us dying painfully in mod convos/whatever that locked chat group was with deth, causing chain reaction after chain reaction. I expected to get banned someday, as I was consistent at not being friendly at Brita in specific (she deserved it) but I didn't expect everyone to get that same treatment.
 

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I am happy it's back, yeah. I remember my promos being better than they were hehehe plus the IW3 vs Bullad Club debacle cracks me up
 

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I appreciate the work a lot for getting this back up, Killer Orange Cat. Thanks! I must say I will never wrap my head around the idea that I or anyone was trying to show any bias towards friends. I remember when people said we were only friends with Tsar because he was the GM lmao. Man, I think that pissed me off the most about the whole deal in the end: I thought we had a good thing going, with me trying to make everything be as fair as possible as I wanted Beaver, Jonny Nostril, Gino back in the day, even Jeffry Mason if he felt like it to join and enjoy it like how we did it. I remember when I became the champion how my plan was to defend the title every other week, constantly DM'ing people from that group to challenge them to make them feel accepted and a part of this e-fed. Unfortunately for them, their ideas regarding us were already sealed. It was all dumb and petty.
I don't know about everyone but there definitely was bias in some of the votes. Coincidentally, most of them came from the TWF guys but there were a few TWF guys that I remember that had no bias like THG?, DK James, Shadow and possibly you? I can't name them all, but there is def evidence of tampering of votes. (Skype DM Screenshots sent to Jono and others at the time.)

From what I understood later on, having talked with Dat Kid and Aids and all those, they've wanted to shut IWT down for months trying to start new e-feds before they actually had the chance to. It probably was all just based on the fact that they hated us. Again, mostly beyond my comprehension.
Correct.

They launched failed E-Feds to replace IWT but they never lived up to it.

No offence to other e-feds, but IWT was legitimately probably the largest e-feds I've seen on forums. To a point where people would sign up on another forum just to continue under the banner IWT.
 

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cool to read old promos but also lots of cringing going on.

some promos where i thought i did good were like less than avg at best
 

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I got some cringe too.

Oh, and for the record, I did tell my sister to vote. But the funny thing is that the people who were pissed at me for doing that were also out fishing for votes.

And even though Roadie actually created Schizo, I did create the entrance using the ringtone and the cellphone idea. I actually am proud of that.
 

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From what I understood later on, having talked with Dat Kid and Aids and all those, they've wanted to shut IWT down for months trying to start new e-feds before they actually had the chance to. It probably was all just based on the fact that they hated us. Again, mostly beyond my comprehension.

It got pretty bad behind the scenes in the forum team sections. There are reasons they deleted the forum team discussions and all of the PMs before selling the site to Cam.

But yeah, they really grew to hate the section and looked for reasons to get rid of it.
 

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I know they used Reag not being given a world title shot at IWTMania IV back then as evidence but really it was just the fact that some of them really, really hated myself and friends of mine. I'm likely the culprit for most of it, though. That's my two cents on it, shame it had to die the way it did! Especially with how active it was until the day of death!

Happy to get my promos back though!
The reason Reagmaster was not given the IWT title match was because it was supposed to be the final IWT match and I really really did not want the final IWT PPV to be headlined by Reagan fucking Cole (all due respect bro but you lost all the time)
 

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I don't know about everyone but there definitely was bias in some of the votes. Coincidentally, most of them came from the TWF guys but there were a few TWF guys that I remember that had no bias like THG?, DK James, Shadow and possibly you? I can't name them all, but there is def evidence of tampering of votes. (Skype DM Screenshots sent to Jono and others at the time.)
Yeah, some mongoloid called FrostyBlur made 8 accounts to always vote for himself (and to get a monopoly in votes in a WWE 2K Playstation league) and some matches got flooded by non-IWT dudes voting to the point of it becoming ridiculous.

I know the TWF guys really hated the system that was in place, and they likely hated Tsar and wanted to spite us so they tried to show the supposed flaws in the public voting system. Some wanted a "jury" to decide instead and end public voting, which would cause other people to call bias. It'd never be perfect but I believe approaching it with honesty is something most people did regardless.
 

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