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Hello everyone! and welcome to the Rate Raw and Raw Recap for September 16th 2019! we got a packed show tonight, so always rate in the poll above share your thoughts below, as i recap Raw!


Seth Rollins Kicks Off Raw

We got Seth in the ring, he says me and braun lost the tag team titles, im not happy about it, and it doesnt matter whose fault it is because we lost as a team, and then we faced esachother for the universal title.

He says Braun is large and strong and last night he beat the hell outta me and gave me the fight of me life, so mad props to strowman, but even so i put him down with the stomp, but that wasnt enough so i gave him a third stomp, so i had to dig deep and deliver a pedigree and a forth stomp to keep the big man down.

He then goes on to mention he was attacked by the fiend, we get loud Yowie Wowie chants, he says as i was choked half to death the last thing i saw was the face of The Fiend, he goes on to talk about how hes gonna face the fiend inside hell in a cell, and goes on to talk about the cell, when Firefly Fun House begins!

We see Bray wyatt, he says oh my lucky stars! its my future best friend seth rollins! he says im glad you are here! and super glad you are okay!

Seth responds by saying oh your glad im okay? really? look dude you are a sick man comin out here talking to me.. then rabblin rabbit comes in and says SETH! SETH! YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING! RUN! RUN! and bray slams his fist on the table infornt of him NO! he says, ramblin rabbit runs away, then looks at the camera, he says htere is no need for name calling, but its fine, its poppycock! but its fine.. Mistakes happen.you should know, you've made mistakes, but plenty of people have forgiven you!

He says But just as i told my fireflys last week, friends forgive but he....he never forgets, maybe thats why he said hello at clash of champions...who knows...he might even have more to say to you tonight, the crowd erupts in excitement and bray stares into the camera as tension builds, he then waves and says bye the firefly funhouse ends but the music keeps playing.

Then as we see matches for later on, its all upside down, and the commentators notice it and become very unsettled, brilliant touch.


Dolph Ziggler and Robert Roode Come Out To Chat

Robert and Dolph come out to the ring, before they can even speak the revivals music hits and they come out to the ring, both the raw and smackdown tag team champions are in the ring.

Robert said when eh and dolph became a team nobody could believe it, but take a good har dlook at greatness, at your new raw tag tea-GRRAAAAAAUUUUUNNN

Yup, here coems Braun, hes angry and is about to wreck havoc, evival try to get the upoperhand and brauns not phased, Brauns laying waste to everyone and stands tall in the ring, though robert roode did get away in time

Alexa and nikki are backstage, they talk about sasha and bayley, and at this moment i had tech issues, but i learned that its gonna but them VS Bayley and Sasha later tonight.


The O.C. VS Cedric Alexander and The Viking Raiders
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So i missed the beginning of this match due to tech issues, but i know a little bit, cedric and the viking raiders quickly took control and worked ever AJ, but the OC managed to gain control as we had to commericlal.

We come back and the OC has control andersons in the ring with a rest hold, Ivar of viking raiders gets the hot tag and runs wild, good to see these people get used, viking raiders are such a great team and deserve to shine, the babyfaces run wild but AJ makes a sneaky tag and hits the phenomanal forarm for the pin, and afterward immediately beats Cedric, the viking raiders come back for the save but they fail and the OC stand tall.

And now we got the finale of the King of the Ring tournament.


Chad Gable VS Baron Corbin
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Anyone remember American Alpha? they were such a great team.

Anyway lets get this underway, we got some wrestling Gable showing his skill, wrestling corbin to the mat, corbin powers out and hits chad with a massive forarm, he pikc shim back up but gable gets around him goes for the german, but corbin hangs onto the ropes and stops him. Corbin lays some massive hits in gables down, corbin slams him to the corner lays the hits in in the corner, corbin hits him with a knee back in the middle of the ring.

Corbin goes to pick up gable but gable takes out his feet corbin kicks him away, gable now by the ropes waits for corbin to charge and he does and he sends corbin to the outside, but on the outside as gable charges corbin throws him into a chair (not a steel chair, regular chair) as we go to commercial.

We come back gables on the outside corbins in the ring a count of 7, gable gets in, corbin smacks him down as gable gets up and corbin gets a near fall. Corbin locks in a headlock in the center of the ring, Gable fights out with punches, gable throws corbin to the corner but corbin slides around it and back in the ring and htis a huge clothesline for the near fall.

Corbin throws gable to the ropes he bounces off and corbin hits a forarm to the back of gable knocking him down, corbin pick sup gable who fights back, he shoves corbin to the ropes and corbin bounces off hitting a huge big boot. Corbin brings gable to the corner and throws him into another one gable htis hard bounces off.

Corbin gets him to another corner lays in hits, puts gable on the top turnbuckle, or tires to as gable locks in a armbar but corbin lifts him from the outside to the ring, a modifyed powerbomb for a nearfall.

Baron locks in a headlock, gable tries to fight out corbin throws him to the ropes again and gable bounces off as corbin once again forarms him down to the mat, corbin picks him up and tries to do it again but gable rolls through into the ankle lock, corbin eventually fights out, gables in the corner corbin charges him gable moves corbin goes right into the ring post, corbins getting up gable son the top roipe, he hits a dropkick corbins down now by the corner, gable opposite corner, gable charges does a kind of front flip kick not once but atleast 3 times, he tires again but corbin lifts him up and its a pop up poiwerslam for a nearfall.

both men down corbins up on the outside throws gable into the barricade, brings him around throws him into anothe rbarricade, corbin gets in the ring breaks the count. Gables resting by the steel stairs corbin charges gable moves corbin hits the stairs.

the official counts corbin gets back in beating the count. Gable takes corbin bring shim to the ringpost slams his legs into it, both men in the ring and gable starts laying in hits while corbins on his knees, gable runs the ropes and runs right into a deep six for a near fall.

WHY SI THIS MATCH BETTER THEN EVERY MATCH FROM CLASH OF CHAMPIONS!?!

gable htis a massive german suplex for the near fall he goes to the top rope goes for a moonsault corbin moves gable lands on his feet he runs the ropes runs corbin goes for end of days gable slides through into the ankle lock corbins in pain crowd goes nuts, corbin gets to the ropes, corbin gets to the ropes as gable goes for the ankle lock but corbin stops him shoves gable away, gable flips around corbin but corbin turns it into a ENd of Days for the pin.

That match was fantastic, best match corbins ever had or done

We got street profits backstage for the gender reveal party, and they reveal the gender of marias child....maria says we all know who the father of the cild really is...and its ricochet...wait what..so mike slaps ricochet challenges him to a a match and thats next.


Ricochet VS Mike Kenellis
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Mike immediately charges ricochet who dodges, ricochet is pleading with him he didnt do anything, eventually ricochet gets to work does a few things, and hits the recoil for the win.

We are back in the fun house. Brays putting up picks of the people the fiends destroyed, he says hes been really busy! adding to hsi wall of friendship, but it seems somethings missing, he needs to go make more friends...

oh boy..this is gonna be good.

We come back mikes on the ring, maria says whats it gonna take to motivate you? obviously ricochet isnt the father, she says so how about i reveal who the REAL father is? the father is...the father is....and here comes rusev, mustach and all, we got rusev day chants, rusev beats mike up and gets mike in the ring rusev on the other side, refs in the ring starts the match, rusev hits a kick and locks in the acalade for the quick submission.

Also forgot to mention, Kane has been giving r truth a tour of knoxville tennesse which si where Raw is tonight, and kane ended up pinning r truth to become 24/7 champion.

Next up we got Rey Mysterio in action.


Rey Mysterio VS Cesaro
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After a short promo from Cesaro these two brawl on the outside briefly before both ar eback in the ring and this match starts proper, Cesaro hits a huge uppercut to gain the upperhand and a nearfall. Cesaro hits some elboys uppercuts, he picks rey up by the waste turns it into a powerbomb position, he goes to hit rey in the corner but rey turns it onto a hurricanranna into the ring post.

Cesaros on the apron on the outside he grabs rey goes for the suplex but rey fights out knocks cesaro to the outside, does a dive and we go to commercial.

We come back with a nearfall from cesaro nearly beating rey, then cesaro locks in a headlock but rey fights out, they fight in the corner cesaro knocks rey out fo the ring onto the outside, he gets rey in for a nearfall. Cesaro locks in another headlock of sorts. rey fights out runs the ropes dodges cesaro does a springboard cross body cesaro rolls through but rey spikes him into the mat, rey then hits a kind of DDT for a nearfall looked really good.

Rey moves around cesaro runs the ropes but runs into a big boot from cesaro, he then locks in a crossface rey turn it into a near fall, cesaro gets hit by rey hes stunned by the ropes, rey goes for 619 cesaro catches him drops him on his knee for a near fall. it looked painful, good stuff.

Cesaro picks rey up, goes for a suplex nails it holds on and rolls through to another suplex nails it, tries again and Rey launchs him to the ropes, hits the 619, rey goes to the top rope but cesaro catches him, tries soemthing but rey turns it into the canadian destroyer for the pin.

More firelfy fun house! Bray hangs up a seth picture, and he smiles.

Well...alright, im not sure what i think about these very short things, we will see.

Next up, womens tag team action.

As we come back they mention the draft and HOLY A.O.P. BATMAN! they cut a great promo because they arent forced to speak english, they say the last time we were in action was wrestlemania, and if we arent given the oppertunity we earned, we are gonna take it, they declare the wwe tag team devision has been warned...great stuff.

Okay..NOW we got tag team action.


Alexa Bliss and Nikki Cross VS Bayley and Sasha Banks
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I had a few tech issues as this match started, i assume there wa sback and forth as always, babyfaces start strong but the heels gain control, and keep control, until the babyface makes the hot tag runs wild, then it goes whatever route they plan on from there in terms of who wisn or loses.

Speaking of which bayley hits alexas leg into the stairs to hurt her and she succeeds, trainers come out to kayfabe check on alexa who no doubt isnt actually injured as we go to commercial.

We come back bayleys in control, appearntly alexas been taken backstage to get some medical attention, so t seems my sumption was quite incorrect this time.

both Bayley and Sasha go to work working over Nikki but nikki goes into beast mode and beats the hell outta sasha and bayley, she takes out sasha on the outside and shes fighting bayley in the ring, hitting a clothsline to bayley in the corner then the running bulldog, she contineus fighting bayley and hits a neckbreaker for a nearfall but sasha returns and tags in sasha end sup locking in the bank statement for the submission.

Sasha grabs a chair gets in the ring and goes to beat up Nikki but here comes Becky lynch chair in hand, Becky and sasha have a rediculess but in the best way chair fight, like swords clashing they hit each others chairs a few times, sasha goes for another one but becky uses hers like a spear hitting sasha, then bayley comes in with a chair and her and becky clash and then its a 2 v one with chairs clashing like a sword fight, becky doeging one hitting the other as they dance around the ring in spectaculer fashion, swinging and hitting going for jabs the crowds goin nuts, becky rolls away from a chair shots as she hits sasha and as bayley goes for a hit becky gets her too and slays them both to stand tall....

Okay i might have exaggeriated there LOL, okay lets rewind to what really happened, beck and sasha did clash like i said hitting eachothers chairs and as sasha went to strike becky got her first in the stomach, then as becky went to strike again bayley comes in with a chair its 2 v 1 and beckys ready to fight, then here comes charlotte, bayley runs the ramp to her trying to get the upper hand but she gets a big boot, charlotte grabs the chair takes out bayley then charlotte looks at sasha as does becky, sasha charges becky ends up getting hit though and taken out, as Charlotte and Becky stand tall.

Sasha is angry backstage and challenges becky to a rematch at Hell In A Cell.

Next up we got more of the 24/7 title stuff, kanes in a limo and r truth is rideing ontop

We get a reply from becky, she says im not interested in faceing you AT Hell In A Cell, she says im interesting in destroying you INSIDE Hell in a Cell.

Laceys in action next, probably against natalya again

Lacey Evens VS Dana Brooke
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Crowd doesnt care at all about Dana lol.

This match starts Lacye immediately starts beating upo Dana in the corner and these two do some back and forth, this crowd is so dead you can hear a pin drop, you can hear individual people in the crowd.

Laceys in control but Dana starts to ger offense and nobody cares, lacey stops dana and hits the womans right, but rather then pin Dana, she locks in the sharpshooter for the submission, maybe 1 or 2 people booed.

This match was so bad i had to make a new star rateing, i call it the Dead Star, the lowest possible rateing for a match, it was so bad i had to go below 1 star, crowd was dead the match sucked, terrible.

Seth Rollins vs Robert is next


Seth Rollins VS Robert Roode
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These two start off with soem back and forth, robert takes control but seth fights out, knocking robert to the outside, he goes to run the ropes but dolphs on the apron, seth chases dolph around the ring and runs into roode, roode tries to do something but seths revserse it slams him on the apron rolls him in the ring, then gets on the apron and dolph distratc shim long enough for rood eot knock him onto the barricade, robert distracts the ref and dolph hits seth as we go to commercial.

Roberts got control has seth in a hold, seth fights out but robert hits a backbreaker for a near fall, seths on the outside roberts distracting the ref seth superkicks dolph, seth gets in the ring and there is more back and forth.

both men down seth gets up goes to the top rope but roode stops him and climps up with him. both men on the rop rope, seth slides underneath and does a buckle bomb a super kick and then a curb stomp and goes for the pin, then dolph comes in and beats up seth for the DQ, but seth fights back, the two are brawling and here comes the OC, now the OC and dolph beat up seth, oc hits magic killer they get seth up again and Aj hits the styles clash.

Dolph helps roode up the beatdown continues as they beat up seth. Gallwos holds seth and everyones layin in shots, dolph hits a superkick and then here comes Kane, mayor of knoxville, he begins to lay waste to the OC, a chokeslam on gallows, a chokeslam to anderson and Aj Styles at the same time.

Kane stands tall and as kane goes to do his pyro, the lights go out, her ecomes the fiend!

The fiend appears the spooky lighting and sounds, the fiend is behind kane and locks in the mandible claw and kills kane.
he then turns his attention to seth rollins, crawling toward him, seth looks terrifyed and the visual is incredible, the show ends with the firefly fun house theme distorting becoming dark and twisted, its like its never ending as the show cuts off.

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And that was the show! you can find my review below!

Raw had ups ad downs tonight, some matches were goo,d one wa sgreat, and others not so good, one match was so bad i had to make a new rateing for how awful it was, but the show ended on a high note, and the possibility fo The Fiend as champion and tormenting the entire roster and show sounds incredible. But due to how half in half the show was, as much as i love the fiend, i gotta give this show a 6/10.

Thank you for reading! have a great night! <3
 
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The Bray Wyatt/Fiend stuff was 8/10

The 24/7 title and Kane stuff was 8/10


The rest of the show was 2/10

I'll give the show as a whole a 5/10
 
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Wow...Lacey Evans vs. Dana Brooke?

Yeah...I'm sure it looked promising...
until they started wrestling.

I don't think I need to comment on
anything else...

Apart from the fact Braun Strowman is
now about as intimidating as a bag of
jelly, Corbin as the KOTR is just cringe &
I find it funny that the Fiend was allowed
to attack Kane...but not Austin or Taker...

Whatever...the Fiend & this entire gimmick
is garbage anyway & its clearly only getting
pushed because of all the merchandise the
"Sheep" will buy.

Also don't you love how Rollins has wrestled
Le$nar, Styles, Corbin, Le$nar, Strowman &
now Wyatt...

How is Seth going to put on great matches
against giant lumbering monsters WWE?

He gets one match against Styles & no
one else in his same weight class? WTF?!

I'm out...

Call me if Bayley & Sasha start making out.
 

InsaneAlphaBeta

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its clearly only getting pushed because of all the merchandise the "Sheep" will buy.
Yes, because clearly, since you hate the gimmick so much, the next logical step for you is to insult every single fan of the gimmick, calling them "Sheep"

Allow me to bring a phrase out of your catalog you once used on me

You are better then this.

or atleast id like to think you are, hating the gimmick is fine, undertsandable, but that doesnt give you the right to chidlishly throw insults. Nobody is a sheep because they enjoy something.

im not really tirggered by anything, except this one little thing, where people dont like something, and so they just assume call fans of what they dont like sheep, which is degradeing, condecending, and countless other stuff.

You can hate the gimmick all you want, but id ask you refrain from such childish insults.
 

Grievous 3D

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Yes, because clearly, since you hate the gimmick so much, the next logical step for you is to insult every single fan of the gimmick, calling them "Sheep"

Allow me to bring a phrase out of your catalog you once used on me

You are better then this.

or atleast id like to think you are, hating the gimmick is fine, undertsandable, but that doesnt give you the right to chidlishly throw insults. Nobody is a sheep because they enjoy something.

im not really tirggered by anything, except this one little thing, where people dont like something, and so they just assume call fans of what they dont like sheep, which is degradeing, condecending, and countless other stuff.

You can hate the gimmick all you want, but id ask you refrain from such childish insults.
And I'll ask you to refrain from telling me what I can & can't post...

:thumbsup:

Oh...and I'm not better this...trust me.
 

Grievous 3D

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To be fair, i didnt tell you to do anything, i simply asked.
Well to be fair...I would never ask anyone not to post their
honest thoughts & opinions on here...no matter how much
it seems like a "out of control" rant.

Although perhaps I was simply posting what I did to "stir
the pot" & make sure everyone who is jumping on Wyatt
bandwagon now its cool knows what I think of them.

I wouldn't take anything posted about actual wrestling
on here personally Alpha.

Frankly I've learned that wrestling is not really worth
getting that invested in...at least not to the point of
anger.

Most of my "Rant" posts these days are done in humor...
& if people get a laugh...then cool...if they get upset...
well...they make that choice to get upset.

A random insult posted on a random forum is only an insult
if you choose to take it as an insult.

Honestly...most of the time if someone posts something
on here that I strongly disagree with...I just shake my head
& move on...or try my best to post some kind of snarky but
fun retort.

If people get offended by me referring to them "sheep" then
maybe they're afraid that I've "touched a nerve" somewhat.

Just saying...
 
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InsaneAlphaBeta

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Well to be fair...I would never ask anyone not to post their
honest thoughts & opinions on here...no matter how much
it seems like a "out of control" rant.

Although perhaps I was simply posting what I did to "stir
the pot" & make sure everyone who is jumping on Wyatt
bandwagon now its cool knows what I think of them.

I wouldn't take anything posted about actual wrestling
on here personally Alpha.

Frankly I've learned that wrestling is not really worth
getting that invested in...at least not to the point of
anger.

Most of my "Rant" posts these days are done in humor...
& if people get a laugh...then cool...if they get upset...
well...they make that choice to get upset.

A random insult posted on a random forum is only an insult
if you choose to take it as an insult.

Honestly...most of the time if someone posts something
on here that I strongly disagree with...I just shake my head
& move on...or try my best to post some kind of snarky but
fun retort.

If people get offended by me referring to them "sheep" then
maybe they're afraid that I've "touched a nerve" somewhat.

Just saying...
Actually ya know what, here i my problem. @ Grievous 3D Grievous 3D

Im not saying you shouldnt share your thoughts and opinions, im not saying that at all, what i am saying is, sure, you arent invested, and i get that, its pretty obvious.

What i AM saying is you shouldnt just assume that because you arent invested that suddenly means nobody else should be or is, you said it yourself you said that just to stir the pot, or atleast possibly was, and yes, i have a problem with that, id have a problem regardless of if you said that about any WWE fans of any member of the roster, or just WWE fans in general, or fans of any promotion. You can insult the characters and gimmicks, but insulting fans is my issue.

Am i invested? yeah, i do a recap afteral, im invested in the entire indsutry and where its headed because i find it facisnateing, ive always loved wreslting so i will always be invested to a extent.

All im asking, and yes, asking, not telling, asking, is you dont insult the fans, dont call people sheep because people arent sheep for what they like, thats it, no more no less, id like to think that isnt too hard of a challenge for you, and id like to think you, atleast at the most basic level get my problem and why i feel it is a problem.
 
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I just severely got pissed off after the Gable thing. And it wasn't because he lost, it was the match and the way he lost.

Corbin doesn't need heat. His very existence is heat. I invested myself into this tournament and I will not spend the next year listening to the Fuck Tard Corey Graves hailing King Corbin. 0/10
 
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snarky but fun retort.
And yet when someone else does the same thing you resort to referring to them as a prick.

Anyway onto my thoughts. 7/10.

When the 3 hour show feels like it has gone by in 2 hours it must be good.

Opening segment was great. Love Funhouse Bray cutting promos against his opponents in the ring.

Roode main eventing! Glorious

Like last night, the women's matches were good but I was turned off because commentary absolutely sucks. They either talk about something unrelated with the men's division while the match is going on or they just bitch about friendships and betrayals with the women. Call the fucking match!

Rusev is back and looking real jacked, baby.

AJ/The OC looking dominate.

Baby shower and Kane/R-truth segments were fun.

Biggest negative (apart from commentary)? Sasha and Bayley looking like goobers these past weeks. Even in victory at the PPV Bayley looked like a goober yeeting out of the ring to avoid Charlotte's wrath. The Horsewomen aren't equal - Vince views Becky and Charlotte on another level. Watch Sasha and Bayley go back to the tag division against face Alexa/Nikki and probably lose against them lmao
 

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Knox Country Mayor Glenn Jacobs is my favourite gimmick for Kane. Feels like he's living the gimmick, he's putting his all into it
Glenn Jacobs is possibly my all time favorite (male) performer...

I just like the guy...mask or not.

Although the "Katie Vick" & "Pregnant Lita" angles were incredibly cringe.
 

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Wow...Lacey Evans vs. Dana Brooke?

Yeah...I'm sure it looked promising...
until they started wrestling.

I don't think I need to comment on
anything else...

Apart from the fact Braun Strowman is
now about as intimidating as a bag of
jelly, Corbin as the KOTR is just cringe &
I find it funny that the Fiend was allowed
to attack Kane...but not Austin or Taker...

Whatever...the Fiend & this entire gimmick
is garbage anyway & its clearly only getting
pushed because of all the merchandise the
"Sheep" will buy.

Also don't you love how Rollins has wrestled
Le$nar, Styles, Corbin, Le$nar, Strowman &
now Wyatt...

How is Seth going to put on great matches
against giant lumbering monsters WWE?

He gets one match against Styles & no
one else in his same weight class? WTF?!

I'm out...

Call me if Bayley & Sasha start making out.
 

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Fucking Ouch...

Not that I'd mind Lacey "kicking" me like that.
That was easily the only highlight of the match tbh.

The crowd was so dead you could hear individual people in the crowd, it killed the match (as im sure you read i had to give it a new star rateing since i had nothing below 1 star lol)

I feel like they should have let Lacey develop in the ring mroe in NXT, but unfortunately vince saw her and instantly braught her to the main roster too early before she was ready, as a result shes not getting over and not really getting any reaction, besides to the way she looks.
 

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