What accomplishment, claim, or ability should The Fiend Bray Wyatt hold to his name

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Like Finn Balor's Demon Persona Streak at Summer Slam, what type of accomplishment, claim, etc. Should Fiend Bray Wyatt hold.

Such as Match, Title, Ability (like Never Submitting), etc.

Truly I feel he would do best if he made a profound effect in a Match Type like Edge(TLC), Undertaker (Hell in a Cell and gimmicked matches), Mick Foley/Cactus Jack(Hardcore), etc.

The match that would fit him the best to me is a Hell in a Cell match Streak. It would have a caged animal feel being in there with The Fiend.

If not that the give him a Extreme Rules Streak. That will have more of a Slasher Movie feel to him.

What do you think he should have?
 
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Maybe try something new and make him a steel cage match specialist, or at least a specialist when it comes to everything that includes cage/cell. I’m tired of those old boring characters that were all about being specialist in hell in a cell, there were like dozens of them.
The Fiend should also get a brand NEW submission that we haven’t even seen yet in WWE. That could be a sort of his trademark. So, bottom line, they should develope something innovative, make Wyatt look different and unique from other ‘monster’ characters.
But to hell with this, why discuss at all when the WWE is going to make him a jobber and just an entertaining attraction anyways.
 
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The Fiend should also get a brand NEW submission that we haven’t even seen yet in WWE.
I actually love the sound of that. With the Legacy the Mandible Claw and Hells Gate left behind something like that could push him as his character to the moon.

But to hell with this, why discuss at all when the WWE is going to make him a jobber and just an entertaining attraction anyways.
Well you have to think about it for a sec. Rumor Has it that the Fiend will be Undertaker's last opponent at WM and someone has to fill that his void. It would be stupid for Vince to not take advantage make The Fiend become this era's Undertaker & Balor become this era's Sting.

He really has no choice but to fill that Dark Fictional Babyface void like Taker, Sting, etc. They can't just walk off into the sunset without a successor or someone to pass the torch to. If Vince just turn him into a jobber he just giving us another reason for people to view and wrestlers to go to AEW
 

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Hmmm.

The Fiend being good in specific matches or a match type could limit his capabilitys, and thus that could create excuses for him to lose.

i think for now The Fiend just needs to destroy anyone and everyone he fights, he needs to dominate, no ifs ands or buts about it, no matter the match type.

If you want to give The Fiend a huge accomplishment, have him destroy Brock Lesnar, i mean full on squash match, Brock gets a tiny bit of offense only for the fiend to stop him and brutally destroy him. And have him beat The Undertaker at Wrestlemania aswell, and pass the torch.

Make The Fiend the most terrifying and dangerous entity in the entire company, and if you make him WWE champion, make him a unstoppable champion for a VERY long time, and to make it better, he never losses the title, he just decides hes made his point and doesnt need it and goes for Universal champion and dominate there for a VERY long ttime and do the same thing, a champion who is so dominate he just decides he doesnt need it anymore. So he never loses it. he just releases his hold on it and proceeds to bring terror to the entire company.
 

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Well you have to think about it for a sec. Rumor Has it that the Fiend will be Undertaker's last opponent at WM and someone has to fill that his void. It would be stupid for Vince to not take advantage make The Fiend become this era's Undertaker & Balor become this era's Sting.

He really has no choice but to fill that Dark Fictional Babyface void like Taker, Sting, etc. They can't just walk off into the sunset without a successor or someone to pass the torch to. If Vince just turn him into a jobber he just giving us another reason for people to view and wrestlers to go to AEW
I really hope you’re right about everything you just said, bud. You actually never really know, they did release the world title from Lesnar, they did improve both Smackdown and Raw and brung Bischoff and Heyman as GM’s. Could be that they will really start thinking more and push The Fiend and Finn in the way they deserve, or at least half the way they deserve. WWE really is shitless scared of AEW and looks like it could be a very good thing.

Maybe y’all will think I’m crazy but I genuinely think that The Fiend/Bray Wyatt could be BETTER than Undertaker gimmick and character wise. Dude is simply amazing and has incredible potential. Not really sure about Finn, I like him in his normal attire but maybe make him a new Kane and switch appearances from time tk time.

The Fiend vs The Undertaker at WM would be awesome. Hope they will make it happen.
 

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Hmmm.

The Fiend being good in specific matches or a match type could limit his capabilitys, and thus that could create excuses for him to lose.

i think for now The Fiend just needs to destroy anyone and everyone he fights, he needs to dominate, no ifs ands or buts about it, no matter the match type.

If you want to give The Fiend a huge accomplishment, have him destroy Brock Lesnar, i mean full on squash match, Brock gets a tiny bit of offense only for the fiend to stop him and brutally destroy him. And have him beat The Undertaker at Wrestlemania aswell, and pass the torch.

Make The Fiend the most terrifying and dangerous entity in the entire company, and if you make him WWE champion, make him a unstoppable champion for a VERY long time, and to make it better, he never losses the title, he just decides hes made his point and doesnt need it and goes for Universal champion and dominate there for a VERY long ttime and do the same thing, a champion who is so dominate he just decides he doesnt need it anymore. So he never loses it. he just releases his hold on it and proceeds to bring terror to the entire company.
(Actually) retiring the Undertaker & Kane?

Can we do that? That way we won't have
to watch two old men stumble around the
ring looking for their keys & Bray would
finally get that rub he was due 5 years ago.
To me the passing of the torch should happen, but I also want to see him have a Specialty under his belt.

To me Retiring The Undertaker would push him but retiring 1 legend won't make him Immortal like Undertaker, Sting, Kane, Mick Foley,etc.

I feel they should do a angle where they have him headline and defeat Legends and Icons in the Main Events of WrestleMania

Have him beat and/or retire
Undertaker
Kane
Triple H
Goldberg(if possible)
Lesnar (even tho many doesn't consider him a legend or icon beating him will definitely push him,)
etc.

Basically make him the new Legend Killer
 

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To me Retiring The Undertaker would push him but retiring 1 legend won't make him Immortal like Undertaker, Sting, Kane, Mick Foley,etc.
Dude...I hate to say it...but Bray is beyond being an "Immortal" at this point.

His booking has been too poor to ever be considered in the same ballpark
as those you mentioned. Taker, Sting, Kane & Foley were all generally well
protected at nearly every stage of their "in-ring" careers...Wyatt on the other
hand...I think WWE/Wrestling fans are getting too excited about this entire
Firefly Fun House/Fiend gimmick...and its still very early days at this point.

I still contend he hasn't really done anything of note yet...and until he feuds
with & DEFEATS a couple of "big names" well...its still just Bray Wyatt in a
shitty mask with different music.

Goldberg (if possible)
Lesnar (even tho many doesn't consider him a legend or icon beating him will definitely push him,)
Do you truly believe that Goldberg or Le$nar would ever put
the Fiend over?

Do you honestly think the WWE would ever book that?

Be realistic man...and remember that nine times out of ten the
WWE will take something over & ruin it because its not part of
the "overall" plan.

Honestly this entire Firefly Fun House/Fiend gimmick stinks
of a way to sell some merchandise...I mean just look at this...



And you can call me a cynic or a contrarian or a negative bastard...
but the truth is the WWE made me view their product this way.

The WWE made me distrust them...& frankly I don't think I'll ever
put any faith in them ever again.

I want Bray Wyatt to succeed...no matter what "gimmick" he has...
but I truly doubt the WWE will ever put him in a protected, top card
position...

And lets not forget...the Fiend is essentially a monster right?

And who do monsters get fed to in the WWE?

Hell...who does everyone eventually get fed to in the WWE...

Ugh...

Hurry up AEW...

I want to care about wrestling again.
 

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Dude...I hate to say it...but Bray is beyond being an "Immortal" at this point.

His booking has been too poor to ever be considered in the same ballpark
as those you mentioned. Taker, Sting, Kane & Foley were all generally well
protected at nearly every stage of their "in-ring" careers...Wyatt on the other
hand...I think WWE/Wrestling fans are getting too excited about this entire
Firefly Fun House/Fiend gimmick...and its still very early days at this point.

I still contend he hasn't really done anything of note yet...and until he feuds
with & DEFEATS a couple of "big names" well...its still just Bray Wyatt in a
shitty mask with different music.


Do you truly believe that Goldberg or Le$nar would ever put
the Fiend over?

Do you honestly think the WWE would ever book that?

Be realistic man...and remember that nine times out of ten the
WWE will take something over & ruin it because its not part of
the "overall" plan.

Honestly this entire Firefly Fun House/Fiend gimmick stinks
of a way to sell some merchandise...I mean just look at this...



And you can call me a cynic or a contrarian or a negative bastard...
but the truth is the WWE made me view their product this way.

The WWE made me distrust them...& frankly I don't think I'll ever
put any faith in them ever again.

I want Bray Wyatt to succeed...no matter what "gimmick" he has...
but I truly doubt the WWE will ever put him in a protected, top card
position...

And lets not forget...the Fiend is essentially a monster right?

And who do monsters get fed to in the WWE?

Hell...who does everyone eventually get fed to in the WWE...

Ugh...

Hurry up AEW...

I want to care about wrestling again.
Ya know, there really is alot to Brays new character, there are so many hints and influiences to past events, and if you pay attention and look at the little things you can see he put a ton of work and thought into the fun house and just the character as a whole.

The craziest part is Bray came up with the Fiend years ago, and nobody even thought about it, considered its meaning or anything.


All the way back then, he had the concept for the fiend allready figured out, meaning he also had the idea for firefly fun house all the way back then, and now hes finally gotten to make it. And i think thats why, or atleast one of the reasons everyone, well mostly everyone loves it, its Brays vision, its his idea, and he plays the role perfectly, exacutes it perfectly, and thats what everyone loves. Its unique its different its fresh and unlike anything WWE has ever seen before, its special, and its potential is limitless.

Part of the reason AEW is so hot is people love the fact these wrestlers are getting to speak for themselves, wrestle the matches they want tell the stories they want and hold nothing back, and i think thats part of why we all love what bray has been doing, its Brays vision, not vinces, and thats why its great.

As for them letting The Fiend beat brock or goldberg, i think they would, i mean, if they let Seth beat lesnar twice? they could definately let The Fiend win, afteral hes more believeable too, in terms of size and the fact Bray is in amazing shape, i can definately see it happening.

And honestly, Bray can become one of the all time greats, you can come back from anything if given the right oppertunity, and right now WWE has a golden oppertunity with The Fiend, with Bray Wyatt, all they need to do is let Bray be Bray, push him to the moon, and just let it happen, dont force it, dont stop it, just let it happen in whatever way it organicly happens.

So far, WWE has allowed Bray to nail this character, so far so good, time will tell if they can keep it up. And for Brays sake, i hope and pray they do. Like you said, Bray deserves it.
 

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Ya know, there really is alot to Brays new character, there are so many hints and influiences to past events, and if you pay attention and look at the little things you can see he put a ton of work and thought into the fun house and just the character as a whole.

The craziest part is Bray came up with the Fiend years ago, and nobody even thought about it, considered its meaning or anything.


All the way back then, he had the concept for the fiend allready figured out, meaning he also had the idea for firefly fun house all the way back then, and now hes finally gotten to make it. And i think thats why, or atleast one of the reasons everyone, well mostly everyone loves it, its Brays vision, its his idea, and he plays the role perfectly, exacutes it perfectly, and thats what everyone loves. Its unique its different its fresh and unlike anything WWE has ever seen before, its special, and its potential is limitless.

Part of the reason AEW is so hot is people love the fact these wrestlers are getting to speak for themselves, wrestle the matches they want tell the stories they want and hold nothing back, and i think thats part of why we all love what bray has been doing, its Brays vision, not vinces, and thats why its great.

As for them letting The Fiend beat brock or goldberg, i think they would, i mean, if they let Seth beat lesnar twice? they could definately let The Fiend win, afteral hes more believeable too, in terms of size and the fact Bray is in amazing shape, i can definately see it happening.

And honestly, Bray can become one of the all time greats, you can come back from anything if given the right oppertunity, and right now WWE has a golden oppertunity with The Fiend, with Bray Wyatt, all they need to do is let Bray be Bray, push him to the moon, and just let it happen, dont force it, dont stop it, just let it happen in whatever way it organicly happens.

So far, WWE has allowed Bray to nail this character, so far so good, time will tell if they can keep it up. And for Brays sake, i hope and pray they do. Like you said, Bray deserves it.
All I'll say is you're a more optimistic man than me.
 
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Dude...I hate to say it...but Bray is beyond being an "Immortal" at this point.

His booking has been too poor to ever be considered in the same ballpark
as those you mentioned. Taker, Sting, Kane & Foley were all generally well
protected at nearly every stage of their "in-ring" careers...Wyatt on the other
hand...I think WWE/Wrestling fans are getting too excited about this entire
Firefly Fun House/Fiend gimmick...and its still very early days at this point.

I still contend he hasn't really done anything of note yet...and until he feuds
with & DEFEATS a couple of "big names" well...its still just Bray Wyatt in a
shitty mask with different music.


Do you truly believe that Goldberg or Le$nar would ever put
the Fiend over?

Do you honestly think the WWE would ever book that?

Be realistic man...and remember that nine times out of ten the
WWE will take something over & ruin it because its not part of
the "overall" plan.

Honestly this entire Firefly Fun House/Fiend gimmick stinks
of a way to sell some merchandise...I mean just look at this...



And you can call me a cynic or a contrarian or a negative bastard...
but the truth is the WWE made me view their product this way.

The WWE made me distrust them...& frankly I don't think I'll ever
put any faith in them ever again.

I want Bray Wyatt to succeed...no matter what "gimmick" he has...
but I truly doubt the WWE will ever put him in a protected, top card
position...

And lets not forget...the Fiend is essentially a monster right?

And who do monsters get fed to in the WWE?

Hell...who does everyone eventually get fed to in the WWE...

Ugh...

Hurry up AEW...

I want to care about wrestling again.
Well you're most likely right on Lesnar and Goldberg not putting others over.

But WWE has their way of convincing those selfish big ego maniacs. That's why I had my thought of them putting Wyatt over.

It's just the fact that they need to do something with Wyatt's new gimmick and not have him be a slot filler. We got too many slot fillers as it is.
 

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It's just the fact that they need to do something with Wyatt's new gimmick and not have him be a slot filler.
I agree...& his lack of appearing on the SummerSlam fallout shows
shows the WWE has no real idea what they are doing. I bet Bray has
plenty of ideas...but whether Vince goes for them is another matter
entirely.

We got too many slot fillers as it is.
Honestly...I always get the feeling that everyone on the roster
is a "slot filler" besides the Plank of Wood & Le$nar.

Actually Styles has done well for himself...and Strowman looked
like a TRUE monster at one point...although that eventually ended.

I mean hopefully Rollins will get some solid booking from now
on...and Kofi has been well booked as Champion...although that
may be at its end come Clash of Champions...but it just seems
that mostly everyone has been booked as filler since the Royal
Rumble 2015.

Ugh...

Hurry up AEW! I need some wrestling to actually care about!
 
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I agree...& his lack of appearing on the SummerSlam fallout shows
shows the WWE has no real idea what they are doing. I bet Bray has
plenty of ideas...but whether Vince goes for them is another matter
entirely.


Honestly...I always get the feeling that everyone on the roster
is a "slot filler" besides the Plank of Wood & Le$nar.

Actually Styles has done well for himself...and Strowman looked
like a TRUE monster at one point...although that eventually ended.

I mean hopefully Rollins will get some solid booking from now
on...and Kofi has been well booked as Champion...although that
may be at its end come Clash of Champions...but it just seems
that mostly everyone has been booked as filler since the Royal
Rumble 2015.

Ugh...

Hurry up AEW! I need some wrestling to actually care about!
You are right about them all being slot fillers because unlike back in the day every rivalry today has the same degree of effort and originality put into it, which is hardly any....

What is there in nearly every rivalry now is the generic "I'm better than you" scenario

The Fiend isn't tailored for that in every rivalry, this is one character who needs effort put into his rivalries. He should not be a mid carder who is just put into the same generic storyline over and over
 
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For fuck sake.... the fiend needs to win and dominate against big names if he has a chance of being a legend or taken seriously or whatever, period. It’s not that hard. Book him well, let him win, and keep his persona the same way it is now. It’ll keep going over big. Summerslam was just the tip of the iceberg if they do this right.
 

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For fuck sake.... the fiend needs to win and dominate against big names if he has a chance of being a legend or taken seriously or whatever, period. It’s not that hard. Book him well, let him win, and keep his persona the same way it is now. It’ll keep going over big. Summerslam was just the tip of the iceberg if they do this right.
Yes he needs good talent but we all know the history of Vince McJackass and good talent.

but like you said book him well, but Vince seemed to lost the definition of well in his mind

So yeah, The Fiend has a lot of potential, lets just pray and hope for the best for him
 

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