Who Should Be The Next Person To Defeat Brock Lesnar?

Discussion in 'General WWE' started by The GOAT, Jun 7, 2015.

  1. And by "defeat", I clearly mean by either pinfall or submission (although the latter is far less likely to happen.) And it doesn't have to be a clean loss, although that's kind of the general idea I'm going for.

    To date, there have only been two people since Brock returned in 2012 who have managed to score a pinfall victory over him - John Cena and Triple H - and both of those guys had their asses handed to them on a silver platter by Brock elsewhere. Everyone else who has stepped up to Lesnar has fallen to his wrath, and that includes the Undertaker himself, who even had to suffer through having his undefeated Wrestlemania streak ended at the hands of our beloved Viking Space Lord, and he's been on a dominant roll more than ever since that happened.

    But obviously Brock is gonna suffer another loss at some point, so when the time finally arrives (most likely at Wrestlemania 32), who do you think will/should be the one that hands him what would only be his third legitimate loss? Roman Reigns? Kevin Owens? Seth Rollins? A returning Steve Austin or Rock (although they've already planted the seeds for a match between he and HHH) at next year's Mania? Daniel Bryan (lol)?
     
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  2. If they truly want to push roman reigns like they claim they want to do, they have to let him beat the beast one on one. It may even take 5 spears, but it needs to happen. Reigns winning be belt at SS by pinning Seth in a triple threat would be garbage. Roman is the guy to do it if they want to push him. Otherwise, I would love to see DB do it next year but that's never happening.

    At this rate, I see stone cold maybe doing it. But that match will prob not happen. All signs point to reigns.
     
  3. It'll be Reigns. But I see it happening some time next year, as I see Reigns pinning Rollins for the title at SummerSlam.
     
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  4. Should be KO.
     
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  5. I wish man.
     
  6. I assume it'll be Roman Reigns, if we're aiming for someone new. No sure who else that is up and coming that can do it.
     
  7. Kevin Owens would be my preference as well. I know I'm getting a little ahead of myself here since he's only made a handful of appearances on WWE television (even if he does already have a clean victory over Cena to his name), but if they continue to build him up as this ultimate bad-ass fighting machine and then pave the way towards a showdown between him and Brock Lesnar at Wrestlemania 32, I'd certainly be down for seeing him be the one to finally defeat Lesnar again (in what would be Brock's first loss in three years by that point.) He can walk away battered, bruised, beaten, and bloody even, but as long as he's walking away on his own and walking away with a clean win over Brock on the grand stage, that would be a hell of a rub and big moment for him.

    No matter what the company may want, I just can't see Roman Reigns being the guy to defeat Brock anymore.
     
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  8. I don't really give a shit if he beats Brock or not, just the thought of the match is fucking orgasmic. That is one feud that can definitely pull me in atm. Steen is one guy who can actually fight Brock's style, take his offense, dish some back out and make it a realistic fucking war between two guys who want to beat the shit out of each other.
     
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  9. My choice is Bray Wyatt He is the only person enigmatic enough and believable enough to get me interested.
    Steen is for marks, which is actually a good thing. He's an all-around talent who's forced himself to be worthy of his spot.
    He's also an extremely fat piece of sh*t who could only beat Lesnar if he were lucky. I wouldn't believe it which means it would be a feel good story. I hate feel good stories.
    I'm aware Wyatt is fat. He carries his weight better than Steen, but is a much bigger threat to Lesnar because he could pin Lesnar from a variety of different angles.
    Steen would have to go toe to toe because their approaches to violence are carbon copies of the other.
    Steen is neither quicker, stronger or more agile than Lesnar. He's lose badly. Now if Steen were to defeat Wyatt after Wyatt pinned Lesnar, I'd be down for that.
     
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  10. And Bray Wyatt is?

    Don't get me wrong, I'd love a feud between him and Brock, because Bray playing mind games and giving philosophical promos about how Brock is just as weak mentally as he is strong physically (just word that in an enigmatic way that doesn't sound too much like psychobabble) and then inwardly trying to tear away at Brock's psyche would be pretty cool, but him beating Lesnar seems off.

    Kevin Owens would be a better fit imo because their styles are similar and a lot of folks are of the perception that he's the closest thing to another Brock Lesnar since Brock Lesnar himself burst onto the scene in 2002. Not to mention a couple of other little minuscule similarities as well (Owens referring to himself as a prize fighter, etc.) His weight shouldn't be an issue, nothing stops a guy with some pounds on him from being a bad-ass.
     
  11. I'm not against KO winning at all. But to say bray beating Brock doesn't make sense is insane! Your reasoning is that KO has a similar style to Brock so therefore he should be able to beat him... How does that makes sense? Wouldn't it make more sense to have someone with a awkward style beat Brock? Someone who's off the beaten trail? Like Wyatt?

    Idk, I like KO a lot, but I also like bray. And it seems that bray keeps getting the shaft overall, even though he's easily one of the tops talents on the roster.

    They blew the chances of him beating Brock though when he lost to taker at mania 31, however. So never happening.
     
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  12. Wyatt is a complete afterthought at this point lol. I haven't seen his name mentioned on the forum in FOREVER. wtf has he been doing? He is old news, Steen is a much more believable choice. And like Lock said, everything you say about Steen is just as true or more true about Bray. Bray has never put on a brawl like Steen has in his life.
     
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  13. lol I never said it "wouldn't make sense", just that Owens was a better fit because of the compatibility of their characters (plus the fact that there's nothing that could make Owens look more bad-ass than winning or even just surviving a knock-down drag-out fight with Lesnar, the most feared competitor in WWE history.) It's not like there's anything about Wyatt's style of performing in the ring that makes him a patently more believable candidate for beating Lesnar over Owens.
     
  14. In reality nobody beating Lesnar makes sense. You gotta suspend disbelief little buddy.
     
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  15. Agreed, i'd bet on it honestly.
     
  16. "Seems off" or "doesn't make sense".... Kind of similar. The fact that Wyatt has a polar opposite style of lesnar is enough for me to think he should beat Brock over Owens. It would make more sense to me as lesnar seemingly gets thrown off by his awkward style. Lesnar thrives in brawls..this, having Owens beat him in his own game seems, well, worse than bray beating Brock.

    It's all opinion. But idk. Wouldn't mind either of them beating him.
     
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  17. Lol we all know reality... That's why I said Wyatt, in the world of WWE, beating Brock would be better.
     
  18. Seems Off = I'm not sure about it or completely sold on it (in this case, that he would necessarily be the best choice.)
    Doesn't Make Sense = It's an illogical or improbable scenario to even consider.

    And please explain what about Bray's style would make him a tougher adversary than Owens? They both have a good number of moves in their repertoire that are hard-hitting, impact moves. Their gimmicks and personalities and how they're presented are contrasting, but otherwise, it's not like they have radically different styles in the ring when you break it down. The difference (one of them anyway, can't be arsed typing all of them out) is that Bray Wyatt has sort of fallen by the wayside a bit unfortunately, whereas Owens is still a fresh(er) prospect who has already done what Wyatt didn't and beat Cena in his first-ever encounter with him. That, and as I said before, he and Brock have not-too-different personalities that would make for an interesting rivalry.

    At the end of the day, it's all kayfabe, so depending on how they book it and the story leading up to it, either guy can beat Lesnar. I just have a preference of Owens for a number of different reasons.
     
  19. Seems off = interpretation of person who's saying it
    Doesn't make sense = interpretation of person who's saying it
    In other words, they can mean one in the same depending on how it's meant and the context. There's no exact definition for those phrases. Plus, in your opinion, it makes sense for KO to face Brock, not Bray. Thus, it doesn't make sense for Bray to face him.

    Any ways, you said, "And please explain what about Bray's style would make him a tougher adversary than Owens? They both have a good number of moves in their repertoire that are hard-hitting, impact moves. Their gimmicks and personalities and how they're presented are contrasting, but otherwise, it's not like they have radically different styles in the ring when you break it down. The difference (one of them anyway, can't be arsed typing all of them out) is that Bray Wyatt has sort of fallen by the wayside a bit unfortunately, whereas Owens is still a fresh(er) prospect who has already done what Wyatt didn't and beat Cena in his first-ever encounter with him. That, and as I said before, he and Brock have not-too-different personalities that would make for an interesting rivalry. "

    Bray would be tougher, as I eluded to above, because he's the opposite of Brock. Bray's style would throw Brock off. Bray seems semi wreck less. Not a typical brawler or wrestler. He's very uncanny and unpredictable. Not saying that KO is predictable. But he's simply a smash mouth wrestler. Bray is creepy, off beat, will literally just throw his body at you, and play crazy mind games, even in a match. Plus, I think the feud would be fun to watch because of the promos.

    I know Bray has fallen off the bandwagon because of WWE and that's why this will never work....but, since this is hypothetical and I'm pretending that everything was going according to plan with Bray, Bray would be the better option. But that's just me.
     
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  20. Bottom line is KO has been booked like a god whereas Wyatt has been toiling in booking fuckery for a while now. KO is a much more believable dude to beat him in kayabe right now. Wyatt has lost to a bunch of dude's on the roster while KO has lost to nobody and beaten Cena cleanly. Nobody does that shit, it is easy to build him as a threat to beat Lesnar. Nobody would buy Wyatt as a threat at this point, and honestly a feud of Brock overselling being creeped out by Wyatt's cryptic bullshit sounds horrible. Steen vs Heyman on the mic on the other hand sounds legendary.

    How about this, KO squashes Wyatt on his way to going over Bork at Mania

    edit: Edgefuck you make it seem like an impossibility to book KO vs Lesnar but it is really easy. Have KO go on a tear and he calls out Lesnar, who ignores his challenge and does something else at the Rumble.. Steen continues winning/calling out Lesnar, who eventually accepts, but is cocky and doesn't give Owens a chance. He beats the fuck out of Owens, eventually F5'ing him and not going for pins, and KO can fight back from there and that can be Brock's undoing. It doesn't have to be KO just fucking up Brock lol, millions of ways to sell KO as a tough bastard while giving BRock the L without making him seem like a pussy.
     
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